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CSI: Atlantis - What happens in Vegas...

I watched this ep Sunday night and my head damn near exploded. My first coherent thought after watching this episode? Vegas is an AU fanfic. Robert C. Cooper is really one of us, but he got to pull the actors strings and put his fic on the screen goddammit. I'm so far beyond jealous, it's not even fit for words.

Wow.

At the end of the episode, I was yelling at the computer screen. "WTF!?" I cried. "NO! AIEEE!!" I was a bit dazed right afterward, read a couple of reviews and a couple of episode tags, and I've pretty much been thinking about the ep ever since. I don't think that I can really say anything new that hasn't already been said, but I'm trying to figure out what *I* think about it all.

Several others have commented that this was the best episode all season. I think that I might have to agree. It's certainly an amazing piece of work despite the nit pick flaws that annoy the crap out of me (a single person working on a case, a 'rouge element' without any watch dogs breathing down his neck? Shhyeah, right!) *BUT* I can suspend my disbelief. *snort* I'm watching a TV shows about energy sucking space vampires, I think I can suspend a little disbelief now and then.

Flannigan was *amazing* in this. He kicked *ASS*. I totally agree with those who said the lack of dialogue actually made it better because words are *SO* not John's friend. He is an action guy.

Poor, fucked up John Sheppard. We know there is so much more going on here than was going on in our universe. He had a freakin' *relationship* with someone who died while he was trying to save them. And he's only 12 grand in debt? It is truly amazing he hasn't self destructed already.

He is still, quitessentially, *JOHN* under it all. He saves the day, rides the rocket into the mouth of the Wraith ship and takes suicidal risks to save the planet. I could rave about him for several more paragraphs, but it's already been said and better.

Point of note: I have been falling harder and harder for the Flan in the last few months. Sheppard was, to me, simply window dressing to hightlight my fantastic city and my Rodney. But he has really *grown* on me, and I find that I really like the character a lot more than I did. I am official impressed all to hell with Joe Flannigan's acting like never before.

Rodney. OMG. How much did I LOVE this Rodney? Wow. He's not our Rodney. I like this Rodney better than mensa!verse Rod. But I still don't like him as much as my Rodney. He's kind of a heartless bastard who learned how to play the game, and clearly had to in order to survive, but he's lost some of the innocence I still see in *my* McKay.

Funny to see them in the sort of role reversal. And how they still belong together.

Some folks didn't like it at all. Which is interesting; there are *things* about it I don't like. Not seeing all the actors (Teyla! Ronon!) which has been remarked on already; mostly, though, the fact that it's damn fine writing and WTF! I finally watched the rest of Brain Trust and Identity and Infection all in one fell swoop and then I was furious that they wasted time on a story like Identity when they could have been giving us more of *THIS*! Feh!

Sidenote: Y'know, I like Keller well enough as character, and Staite as an actor, but I just find myself, at the end of Season 5, the end of the series, thinking that she was not a good fit for a feature character. And it doesn't help that I bristle every time I see her with Rodney, and no it's NOT just because I'm a McShepper. I actually don't buy their relationship being so easy. I don't buy his easy slide into humility with her. I actually liked the heated glance they shared in Vegas waaaay better than the relationship crap they've been feeding us. I can *totally* buy them having a tryst way better than a happy bf/gf thing.

Point of serious amusement and glee:

We were standing outside The Bridge while they were shooting this episode! OMG.



Hewlett and Nykle brought us cookies while they were DRESSED IN THOSE SUITS!



Picardo was filming some of these scenes while I was walking around the Daedalus!



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shaddyr
Jan. 8th, 2009 06:26 am (UTC)
I have been slain. By his hair. I think it lept right off the screen and stabbed me through the heart.

And yes, I plan to be there. I'm going to see about booking the whole 4 days off if I can swing it.

You and I need to be evil together. We're good at that. We're also good at snarky banter and driving waitress to distraction. You're very good at getting me to do things I won't normally do (like try sushi and play hooky from work!)

I'm so looking forward to seeing you again!

~ Meredith
sp23
Jan. 7th, 2009 03:05 am (UTC)
I thought the episode was amazing. And while I have half an episode tag written where John is saved, in the end, I think the episode works best with him dying. He was just far too tragic a figure for a happy ending. Anyway great episode, and Rodney in the suit was HOT! *g*

Re: McKeller, I wrote in my mini-review of Identity:

Like Rodney's "romance" with Katie Brown, I just can't take this one seriously. However, at least with Katie, Rodney had a certain simple bashful charm when he interacted with her. With Keller? Not so much. There's just no chemistry.

Seriously, they just do not work.
shaddyr
Jan. 8th, 2009 06:34 am (UTC)
::nodnod::

Tragic!John is tragic. And I *get* it that it makes sense he should die in the truest sense of a tragic ending. Tragedy is tragic. But. Have I mentioned how much of an angst whore I am NOT? Because. So. Not.

I love my happy endings. I want it to be better. So. Fuck tragedy. Gimmie last minute saves and a burgeoning Atlantis!CSI McShep. Screw the integrity of the angst ridden storyline and gimmie my boys.

Mmmmmm, McKay. Mmmm, Radek... I had many moments of squee the last few days thinking about the boys coming out in suits with the cookies.

As for McKeller? Yeah. They don't work for me at all. When I finally forced myself to watch all of Brain Trust it irritated the living crap out of me and that little Mile High scene at the end? OMG. Gag me with a pitchfork. GRAH! Can you possibly make a more stilted love scene? Did you *see* the body language as it faded to black? SO not to equal lovers. FAUGH!!

Okay, so I might possibly be a wee bit opinionated about this, just the slightest little bit.

sp23
Jan. 8th, 2009 02:19 pm (UTC)
Re: Brain Storm, I am, in fact, planning a tag to that episode. I think you'll be pleased. *g*
ladyniko
Jan. 9th, 2009 05:52 am (UTC)
Brain Storm needs to be re-written period, because ugh... one ep Keller is this now Awesome Fighter and working to save herself. Then, you have her go be this whiny, insecure, nagging bitch. I wanted to smack her (and Gero for his poor writing in this ep!)

Also - they needed to study their science a wee bit more for that ep - esp the cold plumes - heat rises, cold sinks, boys & girls. Basic science. :-p

Martin Gero so needs to be shot for turning what could be an awesome ep into a tragedy of wasted screen time.
shaddyr
Jan. 9th, 2009 06:26 am (UTC)
Oh GOD no kidding! I want to *slap* him.

Did you cringe over that hideous CPR scene? I mean FUCK dude! I took basic first aid and that was PAINFUL bad. OMG. First of all GET REAL and second of all, do they know NOTHING about hypothermia? If she was truly hypothermic, she would not have been moved and GOD why is she still wearing the freaking dress that should be soaked to her skin? OMGWTFBBQ!

::smacks Gero upside the head::

Seriously Gero, go read some fic and get a CLUE!
sp23
Jan. 9th, 2009 02:07 pm (UTC)
Without a doubt, Worst. Gero. Episode. Ever! And the whole "green" message; gah! I *hate* message episodes and I hate it when networks stick their big fat noses into my stories and insist on having a message episode.

But I'm totally ignoring everything about that episode and just picking it up from the jet ride back.
dan_ad_nauseam
Jan. 10th, 2009 07:49 am (UTC)
At least they didn't have he characters go through a set of choppers. :-)
shaddyr
Jan. 10th, 2009 07:54 am (UTC)
I'm going to have to hurt you now. Because I have this plot bunny to write a RPF where they're all at a con and aliens show up and ask Hewlett to help fix the ZPM...

No. Just... NO!

::cries::
d_odyssey
Jan. 7th, 2009 03:36 am (UTC)
I am still squeeing over Vegas, flaws and all. Yes, would have much preferred Ronon and Teyla to be worked in - hello AU!, but I have been waiting ALL season for the one and only Shep-centric episode and it didn't disappoint. Loved how different it was, loved Vegas Sheppard and Rodney. Agree with your review, except I've always been a Flan/Shep fangirl, so this just deepened by love for Joe/John.

So agree regarding BS, Infection and Identity. Yes a thousand times yes, to Keller not being a good fit and definitely no chemistry, zilch with Rodney. In fact, I love Rodney but too often didn't even recognize him when he was with Keller. All tell, no show, no sizzle only fizzle = no believability, no credibility. What a waste of the only season arc when we could have had more eps like Vegas!!!!! Heck, I'd watch Stargate:Vegas as the new series.

Lucky you! I remember seeing the pics and reading of your fun but long day(s) at Bridge. Good for you!
shaddyr
Jan. 8th, 2009 06:42 am (UTC)
Heck, I'd watch Stargate:Vegas as the new series.

Dude. I'm so there with you on that. I'd certainly take it over this Stargate: Voyager 90210 crap.

Have you seen stargate_vegas?
itsjustgwen
Jan. 8th, 2009 03:04 am (UTC)
Help! I can't get "Solitary Man" out of my brain. I've been replaying it over and over in my head for four days. Vegas is definitely an episode that sticks with you. I've been enjoying all the post-episode tags.

Like you, I was sqeeing about us being there while they were filming the ep. I just hope we get the chance to do that again in the future.
shaddyr
Jan. 8th, 2009 06:44 am (UTC)
Heh. I feel your pain - I've been trying to filk 'Solitary Man' all week, but it is not being cooperative.

So, this Friday! This is it! Are we getting together? I emailed you, but I'm not sure if you got it - I think I'll CC your other edress as well just to make sure.
hipapheralkus
Jan. 8th, 2009 04:42 am (UTC)
I loved how well they did a CSI-esque episode. The camera work, city flashes, it was really quite well done.

The Keller/Rodney thing is weird to me too. I liked the glance in Vegas much more than the cute 'relationship' thing they have going on.

Nice pics, though David Hewlett doesn't look too pleased with his coffee lol. It's so cool you were outside the studio when they were shooting Vegas! I was walking with my sister by when they were shooting 'Search and Rescue' (she was visiting and had to see The Bridge!) and we happened to see Rainbow wandering around inside the fence taking pictures. It was so random to see him at the time, but after seeing the ep it all made sense. lol.
shaddyr
Jan. 8th, 2009 06:47 am (UTC)
Hey some of the Vancouver locals had been thinking of heading down to Seattle to hang with some fans down there on Friday night and watch the finale.

It sounds more and more like that's not actually going to work out, but there are a couple of use who are interested in getting together and watching the episode on Saturday after it airs. Do you think you might be interested?

If so, let me know, and I'll keep you in the loop about what we're doing!
hipapheralkus
Jan. 8th, 2009 07:17 am (UTC)
Ooh that sounds like an interesting idea. I'd be interested in watching the finale on Saturday, not too sure if I'd be able to the Seattle thing or not - leaving work on time is never a certain thing.

So, yeah sure, definitely let me know what's going on :). If I'm free (which Saturday, I most certainly should be) it would be fun to watch the last episode with other people.
shaddyr
Jan. 8th, 2009 08:40 am (UTC)
I have included you in the latest go round of emails between the Bridge crew. Have CCed you at amiehulme (at) gmail (dot) com
hipapheralkus
Jan. 8th, 2009 03:38 pm (UTC)
Cool, thanks :). And I just remembered a friend of mine is doing a farewell lunch/dinner or something for her parents Saturday that she's asked me to go to. So I'll have to get a hold of her and find out the details for that so I'll know if I will be able to do both that and the finale watching.
shaddyr
Jan. 8th, 2009 06:22 pm (UTC)
well hey, even if you can't make that, I'm sure there will be future Stargate and Girly Drink Symposiums that hsifyppah hosts from time to time that you can attend. Frou frou girly drinks and SGA; it's a great combination!
hipapheralkus
Jan. 8th, 2009 06:25 pm (UTC)
cool, well I've emailed my friend so I can get some sort of idea for what's going on this weekend. I was in Ontario over Christmas for 2 weeks, got back on the 2nd, and I feel totally unorganized right now. lol.
psio03kx
Jan. 9th, 2009 09:58 pm (UTC)
I gotta say I *loved* this episode, waaay more than I thought I would too. And you can just see from everything in that episode that they loved making it.

Heheh, also especially loved Picardo's mention of Star Trek: The Experience closing down and how he sounded to upset >.< Been waiting all season for a Star Trek reference ^^

Major love for this darker Rodney too...
shaddyr
Jan. 10th, 2009 07:19 am (UTC)
::nodnod::

The Trek reference was *classic*. Heh.

Dark!Rodney is dark. And a little creepy. I get the feeling that this Rodney is a couple degrees closer to sociopath than people realize.

But then again, I think that in the Vegas!verse, the IOA/SGC (or whatever the hell they are) are a bunch of soulless asshats. And the Trust have their fingers in the pies up to their elbows. Possibly with G'oulds in their brains. Because it would really explain a lot.
aqualegia
Jan. 11th, 2009 05:09 pm (UTC)
CSI: Atlantis - What happens in Vegas...
Great Review, and I liked the pictures.

I adored this episode; Joe Flanigan was absolutely brilliant in it. I loved the interrogation scene between John and Rodney, a beaten down John and a cooler, more withdrawn Rodney. In fact all the scenes between them were very good.

As Woolsey said they knew Sheppard's location, I think that they despatched a party from the Daedalus to pick him up.

As for there being no Teyla and Ronon in the episode, my take on that is: As Sheppard didn't go to Atlantis, Sumner alienated Teyla and Sheppard wasn't there to smooth things over or activate the necklace to bring the Wraith. So many things would have been different, so they probably didn't meet Ronon at all. Even if they did meet Ronon, who would have asked him to be on his team other than John?.
shaddyr
Jan. 12th, 2009 02:54 am (UTC)
Re: CSI: Atlantis - What happens in Vegas...
As Sheppard didn't go to Atlantis, Sumner alienated Teyla and Sheppard wasn't there to smooth things over or activate the necklace to bring the Wraith. So many things would have been different, so they probably didn't meet Ronon at all. Even if they did meet Ronon, who would have asked him to be on his team other than John?.

I think you are probably right about Sumner alienating Teyla. But somehow, I'm betting that *she* was smart enough to figure out that these people might have something to offer *her* people.

I'm still wondering how, without John, they didn't sink the city. No John to find the time traveling jumper and take Weir back in time to save them. I'm figuring it had to be a reality where the ancients were smart enough to build in a release mechanism if the city shield failed, *without* having to be told be Elizabeth.

*pout*

I still missed them.
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