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Well, that was unexpected...

Wow. Word travels *fast* on teh interwebs.

I had no idea that so many PTB types were going to spaz. Huh. So Mallozzi says it's fan bullshit huh? And GW is in totally denial?

Okay. Let me just state, for the record, that I would be *D E L I G H T E D* to be proven wrong on this one. I would cheerfully eat crow and ask for a second helping.

I know a lot of people have expressed that with the track record that the PTBs have at this point with screwing up our characters, maybe it's better if they *don't* make the movie, but I still want one. I really do. And for all the yipping about a script being written - well, that doesn't mean it's getting shot. They LIED to us, boys and girls. We're *Not* Getting Our Movie.

Go ahead, MGM. Go ahead, Brad Wright. Prove. Me. Wrong. PLEASE! I would be overjoyed.

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lysambre
Aug. 20th, 2009 07:43 pm (UTC)
GW is in denial over the fact that SGU is (even before it gets on the screen) racist, sexist, ableist and probably other -ist I'm forgetting. There is no hope for them.
(Anonymous)
Aug. 21st, 2009 02:28 am (UTC)
Okay, no offense to Shaddyr, but while I'm sure alot of your followers have a good reason to believe your word, the rest of the world doesn't...

Do I want to see an SGA movie? Yes...
Do I have 100% confidence that a movie will be made based on information released by TPTB? No...
Do I have 100% confidence that a movie will NOT be made based on the word of an anonymous fan's supposed anonymous source? No...

The fact is, unless you can come up with any sort of evidence to back up your claim, any logical person would put as much faith in your rumor, as they would in any of the other millions of internet rumors that come up every day...even tabloid magazines often have more proof than the word of an anonymous source.....
shaddyr
Aug. 21st, 2009 04:05 am (UTC)
I'm seriously not offended when people have a difference of opinion with me or point out realistic concerns, possible flaws in reasoning - you know, grown up, normal stuff. I can handle it. I regret that you felt the need to post anonymously. It's not like I'm gonna get *mad* at you.

And the fandom, LJ, twitter and the world are perfectly free to take anything I have to say with a grain of salt and make whatever judgement they like. They don't know me from Adam and have every reason to be leery of 'yet another internet rumour'.

As for evidence? *snicker* Well, unless I get a job as Brad Wright's personal assistant... I guess the bottom line will be in a year, when there is still no movie. Wright, Cooper, MGM and the rest of the PTBs shall be revealed for the lying liars they are.

Of course, in a year, they will probably still be saying, "Oh, not yet, not yet, it's coming, it's just not the right time yet..."
wackinessensues
Aug. 20th, 2009 08:28 pm (UTC)
Completely off topic, do you have a pic of me in GoGo boots? No one has posted any pics of Writercon yet. :(
shaddyr
Aug. 21st, 2009 07:24 am (UTC)
Hmmm... it messed up.. trying again..

Yes, and here it is (or should be)

You in GoGo boots!
wackinessensues
Aug. 21st, 2009 03:26 pm (UTC)
Awesome! You rock *so* hard!
astrumporta
Aug. 21st, 2009 05:36 am (UTC)
Sorry, but even if the movie doesn't get made, that doesn't mean anyone LIED. It means the economy crashed, DVD sales plummeted, and the people who have to make such decisions (NOT BW, BTW) believed it was not financially viable to go forward.

If you say you're going to be somewhere at 6 pm, but your car breaks down on the way, does that make you a liar?

Yes, they should not have promised the movie so strongly a year ago. But it doesn't follow that they said it knowing it would never happen.
shaddyr
Aug. 21st, 2009 05:45 am (UTC)
Ah, I should clarify then.

I believe that the intention, at the beginning, was to make an SGA movie. I don't think they would have paid set rent and paid for a script if they never intended for it from the outset.

And hey, I totally agree. The economy is sucktastic. I know, my company just laid of 700 of us and I am job hunting. I grok the economy in a close, personal way.

My contention is the continual insistence that it will be made, absolutely, just a matter of time. Yeah... not so much. They're stringing us along now. I don't think it could really get much worse if they would just fess up and say, "Yeah, this ain't going to happen folks, sorry, it's been shelved."

My pet theory is that the PTBs are afraid of the shitstorm and resulting bad publicity for their new baby. I think they want the old gaurd as well as the coveted younger demographic. They're massively stupid if they don't, we spent a lot of money on stuff. And if they piss us off too much at a critical point, that money goes buh-bye.

So yeah. A year ago? I never called them liars then. This bullshit story that they are going to make it, just waiting for MGMs okay? Is a massive crock of epic proportions.

YMMV. Thanks for commenting - I appreciate your input!
astrumporta
Aug. 21st, 2009 05:57 am (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification; much appreciated. I guess further, where you see purposeful stringing along, I see typical corporate indecision. I don't think JM has been promising it will be made eventually, but saying he hasn't heard it won't be, as subtle as that difference is.

Maybe because I work for the government (yeah, I'm here to help), I'm used to incredible time-spans for decisions to be made, with lots of promises that we'll hear "next week". Very frustrating.

I'd actually believe they'd love to announce the movies before SGU premieres, to mollify the SGA fans and perhaps get them to give SGU a chance. But like you said, YMMV! Maybe I'm just too naive. :)
shaddyr
Aug. 21st, 2009 06:41 am (UTC)
I don't think JM has been promising it will be made eventually, but saying he hasn't heard it won't be, as subtle as that difference is.

I think you're correct. Upon reflection, I was pretty annoyed when I made first post. I had just been informed of the news that I went on to share, and I should have been more clear about what I was saying.

I understand the corporate mentality of indecision. The higher ups can spend 6 or 8 months belabouring something before finally putting it to bed. So yeah, I grok that too.

Honestly? I would be very happy if the info I have turns out to be erroneous, a misunderstanding, or if the PTBs get their shit together and make an SGA movie. Delighted, stunned and amazed.

I just wanted to say one thing about SGU; I haven't got anything against it as such. It's another SG show. There were a ton of Trek spin offs. If SG can carry three shows, well then, by all means. It's the dismissive attitude toward the fans who watched SGA - fans who, demographically, seem to number high in *women*. It appears to me that middle aged women are not considered a valued viewership; women in general actually, if the brehawhaw over the leaked script with the body swapping, noncon sex and devaluation of people with disabilites says anything at all about the producers, writers and backers.

I want all the people who have a JOB because of this show to continue having a job - the actors. The grips. The PAs. The set, paint, and prop people. The writers. Even, god help me, Mallozzi. As much as people have their ire stirred up to boycott the show, that was never my intention. I just wanted MY show to be as valuable. I want my demographic to matter too. And they killed it when it was still viable, and waste always pisses me off. I know some fans vehemently disagree on this point, but other than the McKeller, I didn't have a problem with the scripts in general. I LIKED my show. I wanted more.

I'm babbling. My inner McKay is showing. Heh. So, shutting up now!
astrumporta
Aug. 21st, 2009 03:57 pm (UTC)
I'm totally with you on SGA vs SGU. I think SGA had some great stories left to tell. Not sure I'll enjoy SGU, but like you I want it to succeed for the sake of all the people working hard on it. And I figure the more money the franchise makes, the better chance we have for SGA and SG1 movies.

BTW, good luck to you finding a new job! Lay-offs suck. :(
whizzy
Aug. 21st, 2009 11:24 pm (UTC)
Quoted from wikipedia:

Vaporware is a term used to describe a product, usually software, that has been announced by a developer during or before its development and, therefore, may never actually be released. The term is usually applied to products which fail to emerge after having well-exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product. The term implies unwarranted optimism, an as yet unannounced abandonment of a project, or sometimes even deception; that is, it may imply that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility. However, most vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes.
tavabean
Aug. 22nd, 2009 12:08 am (UTC)
Wow! That is the perfect description of what is going on with this movie.
Thanks.
whizzy
Aug. 22nd, 2009 01:13 am (UTC)
Mmhm. The gaming industry in particular is extremely jaded in regards to vaporware. It's common practice to conceal the extent to which a project is ailing or languishing by releasing new screenshots, feature lists, production art, etc. with the intent to retain the interest of potential customers, just in case the product ever does reach market.

I kinda view assertions that "we have a script!" or "the set hasn't been dismantled!" with the same suspicion.

And in one of those amusing twists of irony, the MMORPG video game based on Stargate, Stargate Worlds, has been vaporware for a couple years now. The developing software company has been evasive over the cause of the delays (hm, sound familiar?) but this rumor citing an undisclosed inside source (again, sound familiar?) tells a different story.
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