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CSS, SHTML,WTF BBQ and other fun acronyms

Dear CSS,
I hate you a lot. Just sayin'.
No love,

Me

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peteralway
Nov. 17th, 2009 02:07 am (UTC)
Confederate Steam Ship?

As in the CSS Virginia, AKA Merrimack?

Yeah, I was retroactively rooting for the Union in the battle of the Monitor and Merrimack myself.

Or am I missing the point here?
retro_rider55
Nov. 17th, 2009 02:17 am (UTC)
Me, too...
shaddyr
Nov. 17th, 2009 03:34 am (UTC)
shaddyr
Nov. 17th, 2009 03:33 am (UTC)
Cascading Sheet Styles.

I am completely self taught in HTML and webpage design and I am trying to figure out how CSS works by looking at the raw code sheet for pages I like and trying to reverse engineer how they work by pulling up various CSS help sites while I hack.

In my spare 27 minutes each day.

::pulls out hair::

What I would *like* to do is have the time and money to take a flippin' course in one of these computer things tht fascinate me for once in my life, so that I could actually say, confidently that I know what I'm doing.

Instead of wibbling nervously, biting my bottom lip, hacking the code and seeing what happens.

I'm really good at pretending I know what I'm doing, but don't be fooled. I've already fubar'd about 3 style sheets. Meh. I just made sure I saved copies of everything first...
peteralway
Nov. 17th, 2009 03:39 am (UTC)
Eh, if you pay for a class, it'll be obsolete by the time you finish it.

OK, so the last computer class I took was in 1980. And as far as I know, people still use COBAL. Though I only used FORTRAN when I last programmed for money.
retro_rider55
Nov. 17th, 2009 04:01 am (UTC)
- aaah...
xathras
Nov. 17th, 2009 08:00 am (UTC)
everything I know about CSS I learned from http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp

also "hacking the code and seeing what happens" one of the better ways of learning, IMHO.
shaddyr
Nov. 18th, 2009 07:29 pm (UTC)
thanks. That's a great resource!
zola
Nov. 17th, 2009 11:25 pm (UTC)
Ask me any question about them that you like--they are really, really easy once you learn how, and you will love the amazing things they can let you do.
shaddyr
Nov. 18th, 2009 07:31 pm (UTC)
I am realizing, slowly, that CSS *is* cool, and I don't have to hand code each style and font into each section, saving a lot of time.

I'm just not familiar enough with it yet to use it effectively, and I keep trying to reverse engineer these really complicated sheets from other websites because I am too impatient to start with simple ones.

Because I want to know how it all works RIGHT NOW!!

*sigh*

I'm a dope sometimes. *grin*
zola
Nov. 18th, 2009 07:47 pm (UTC)
That's exactly why it's so cool. Instead of hand-coding the font color, you can just give it a class and voila, there it is.

I like the css tutorial at

www.w3schools.com

It has all the basics. And I was serious, ask if you have specfic questions. If you want, I'll pass along a very simple sheet with some basics.
banjoplayinnerd
Nov. 17th, 2009 07:02 pm (UTC)
CSS is a very powerful tool and once you get a handle on it you'll be glad you know it. But like anything else in computers, first you have to figure out the terminology. I don't use CSS enough to be able to remember how to turn a font bold, for instance, or the proper way to create a drop-shadow border.

One cheap trick I would suggest is to get a copy of the latest edition of O'Reilly's CSS Pocket Reference: Visual Presentation For The Web. It actually does fit in a pocket and will give you a quick guide to the things you can do with CSS, and the price is right. New copies go for about C$11, used copies from about C$4 up.
shaddyr
Nov. 18th, 2009 07:32 pm (UTC)
I will have to check that out - though I gotta say, the link that xathras left is very helpful for making simple demo sheets and seeing an immediate rendering of what I'm playing with.

I just need practice.
alsogater
Nov. 17th, 2009 10:20 pm (UTC)
Cascading Style Sheets? Ya need the Inline Style, Embedded style, or External (linked)? Works pretty much like a macro. Don't forget your closing tags. Always helps me to set up all the tags first - opening and closing - and then go back and put the stuff in between.
Check your local library's website catalog for one of the most current books that contains CSS.
I know you can learn stuff on your own from a book cuz you are muy intelegente. Only take a course if you need the cert. And make the company pay for it, if you can.
shaddyr
Nov. 18th, 2009 07:34 pm (UTC)
Works pretty much like a macro.

That's a good description of it actually. *grin*

I know basic coding, and I always hand code LJ entries, so that part's not hard - closing tags just make sense - I just have to figure out how to use different style sheets and such. I'll figure it out. And complain a lot in the interim.
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